I can’t say thank you enough to David Barton for this video. At 1:45 in the video he teaches the “7 cultural mountains” which is a troublesome dominionist concept NOT found in the bible.
In the past, David Barton was always very careful not to teach this stuff himself as he knew how explosive and divisive this could become for his millions of gullible followers and book buyers.
Up until a few days ago only a sound clip existed of Barton teaching this stuff but no video was available, that is until now.
While in the past there was possibly some room for debate, any objective person could clearly see that David Bartons “Wallbuilders” were deeply connected to dominionist reconstructionists and New Apostolic Reformists such as Rick Joyner, Raphael Cruz and Lance Wallnau.
Thanks to Right Wing Watch Blog for finding this little gem. It appears as the leaven is spreading throughout the church, false teachers are getting ever bolder.
There is a reason this garbage only appeals to Americans. How many books do you think these hacks like Glen Beck and David Barton sell in the rest of the world?
This is becoming a full blown new cult in America! The truth is more important than politics. I really don’t want to regurgitate whats already been said on this topic but for my friends, please, Do your own research gang. Many Christian discernment and apologetics ministries are warning that these people are very dangerous as I have referenced in my previous post, Christian Dominionists, the Road to Holocaust and Brussels Belgium Terror Attacks
I will add another link to Discernment Ministries, Inc., They have done a remarkable job summarizing things here in this article, 7 Mountain Politics and Theology
The rabbit hole gets deep quick so put on your galoshes and prepare to be enlightened. Don’t be too surprised when you find some of our favorite ministries and churches jumping into the emerging dominionist bandwagon.
Rick Green, partner with David Barton’s Wallbuilders recently came through Honolulu and spoke at a few churches.
They are a very entertaining and dynamic duo. Both of their names are on the Wallbuilders websites and podcasts so what one does, the other is a partner or an accomplice to. Typically Barton does the heavy teaching and book writing while Rick Green defends David Barton from critics. This is why I like to refer to Green as the consigliere. It is tongue in cheek and I mean no offense by it. I am not saying Barton and Green are in in the mafia. It is the way I prefer to describe their relationship.
I have been a subscriber to their podcast for a while. I have friends who really like them although I can’t say I am a real fan. They just lose me with their associations and arguments that just make me very uncomfortable. I will explain why.
In a nutshell David Barton is a Christian Dominionist. There is no need for me to do a complete study on them or what they teach. Hal Lindsey has been a highly respected teacher since the 1970 book “The Late Great Planet Earth”. Hal Lindsey is one of the last of a generation of heavy duty bible teachers which includes Walter Martin and other SOLID and MORE NOBLE teachers in accordance with the book of Acts 17:11.
Dominionism, also known as “Kingdom Now” or “New Apostolic Reformation” (NAR) is theologically all over the map but what they all seem to agree on is this. They all want to implement a conservative “Christian” government that will rule over the rest of society at any cost and are willing to get in bed with anyone else who agrees with their new and improved, baseball, hotdog, easy to swallow frappuccino version of history, religion and politics.
Hal Lindsey and I agree, Dominionism is NOT what the Bible teaches. According to Hal Lindseys book, Dominionism eventually leads to anti-semitism which will eventually bring you face to face with heresy. It is in fact just as Hal Lindsey warned, “The Road to Holocaust”.
Before I switch gears, the NAR or Kingdom Now pied piper of our day is Lance Wallinau with his “7 mountains mandate”. Barton and Green seem to do a real good job keeping their noses clean from any direct relationships with the heretics HOWEVER.
Right Wing Watch has an audio clip of David Barton and his consigliere Rick Green AGREEING and ADVOCATING with the 7 mountains heresy taught by Lance Wallnau. The link to the audio can be found in this article here, David Barton Advocates Seven Mountains Dominionism. It appears Right Wing Watch has the evidence. If the evidence is wrong, Barton or Green are free to send me their answer directly. I would be more than happy to post their rebuttal to this otherwise clear audio.
GUILT BY ASSOCIATION?
I cant make it any easier to understand. Most of our churches teach the “End Times” will involve an anti-Christ, tribulations, a rapture, and a second coming of Jesus Christ.
Wallnau, and the Kingdom Now camp, not only reject traditional pre-milennialism, (not a heresy itself I know that) they go much further and teach that Christians need to take dominion over their areas of influence while “shaking what is happening on earth and take dominion”. They eventually go out and attack others who teach otherwise. Lance Wallinau attacks Hal Lindsey in this example. This is not what my church has taught me so it’s a bit of a surprise when I see fellow christians, pastors and many others eating this stuff up. The bible I have read and the pastors I have known have taught me to 1) study the Word of God, 2) preach the Gospel, 3) fellowship and 4) pray daily. Not any of the rest of this nonsense.
To add insult to injury now I have been personally attacked for daring to bring this up with a trusted friend. I have been accused of “slander” and not doing MY RESEARCH and have even been threatened that I am speaking out against anointed “men of God”? Are you kidding me? What is this? The Church of Scientology?
I don’t mind if we have friendships with people that believe differently than us. Please go right ahead and continue to have weird friends. I do it! Some of my best friends are into many beliefs other than traditional Christianity. I love these friends of mine, but I will not let them teach me or my children their false doctrines.
I really want to keep this short so ill just quickly point out one last video, that according to the title, “David Barton wants to disciple you”… along with his friend, the high prince of false and apostate teachers, the blasphemous health and wealth pope of prosperity Kenneth Copeland.
How many Kenneth Copeland videos do I have to watch to know this is wrong? I’ll give you the answer the number is ZERO. Go ahead and accuse me of a guilt by association fallacy or throwing the baby out with the bathwater but I don’t care. This stuff will not fly in the persecuted church or the underground church. It is for gullible Americans, nothing more.
This proves at a minimum a severe lack of discernment from David Barton. Maybe someone else can find the stomach to dig through the trash and find a gem or two or a smoking gun in these Kenneth Copeland videos but I am going to move along.
These guys are at a minimum just a “little bit off” and I don’t want them or others like them (General Jerry Boykin etc cough cough) teaching me, my pastor, my wife, my friends or my kids.
THE BRUSSELS BELGIUM TERROR ATTACKS
September 11th 2001 became forever remembered as “911″. The London Subway attacks will always be remembered as “7/7″. Well it is still too early to know for sure but I have to wonder if the Brussels attacks will be remembered as “322″.
I am not one of the pre-loaded “false flag” crowd. I don’t jump to conclusions like that but the date and timing of this event does not appear to be random. As I have said many times, I am an evidence guy. Show me your evidence first. Terrorists are perfectly capable of blowing up all sorts of places including airports and subway stations, and they like using dates and times as their signatures. I am not sure when ISIS Jihadists adopted 322 as their signature but apparently it is the date they chose to attack the EU Headquarters.
Here are a few other observations I made today.
Me at the EU Building just a few blocks from Maelbeek subway station in 2011, click for full size!
I have walked down the Rue in Brussels, Belgium where the Maelbeek Subway station is that was bombed today. I knew exactly where it was. Just outside of the Maelbeek train station is the EU building. The geography is significant. This would be tantamount to bombing a subway station in Washington DC one block away from the White House or Congress.
Next, Hal Lindsey and Dave Hunt have always taught that bible prophecy would be centered around a “Revived Roman Empire” European anti christ person that would arise from inside these very buildings. I went “street view” on Google Earth and showed my wife the statue in front of the Berlaymont building, (EU Headquarters) just to the East of the Maelbeek Train station that was bombed.
Nod to Dave Hunt, “A Woman Rides the Beast”, one block away from Maelbeek Subway station bombing
1 Woman riding the beast statue, Check!
Now this is where it gets weird. ISIS theologians teach that their Mahdi will come when “the armies of Rome” attack them in Dabiq, Syria. Are ISIS jihadists attempting to rope or snare the armies of Rome into a war? Many before me have already proposed they must do exactly this or their theology crumbles.
Is what we are witnessing a bit of a competition here? The Muslims that want to be the antichrist have attacked the Romans that want to be the antichrist? Sounds like a warm up to Daniel Chapter 12 if you ask me.
Who will be the real rider on the white horse? I’ll tell you one thing it is not going to be Ted Cruz I don’t care what Glen Beck scribbles on his chalkboard!
How does it all tie together? I don’t think any of it really does except possibly in the grander picture of good versus evil. The fact of the matter and what the evidence is showing today is simply the furthest thing from what the dominionists believe! I’ll throw my hat in with Hal Lindsey on this one.
To wrap it up, and I know I have been all over the place tonight. Do you want to avoid dominionists and emergent church doctrines from creeping into our churches? Would you like to be safe from falling for bogus teachers and bringing dirty politics into our sacred sanctuaries?
I would like to suggest this. How about we do what the church did in the book of Acts. 1) continue steadfastly in the apostles doctrine 2) fellowship with other believers 3) breaking of bread 4) Prayer and if I may I add #5) sharing our faith.
We don’t need anything else.
Pastors if you say “I just teach the Word of God” then mean it. We don’t want to be entertained by our churches. We want to be fed and taught and have a place of sanctuary.
Pastor Chuck Smith nailed it in one of his final warnings to the CCOF (private pastors only email list) and this document has been circulated somewhat publicly since.
2 Peter 2 says But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousnessshall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
When I read 2 Peter it says they SHALL BE and SHALL BRING not might be or might bring or possibly bring, or bring somewhere else to the church down the road, but not bring to us. It says SHALL BRING. Does everyone see the seriousness of this warning?
Be careful teachers. Be careful Christians. This is not a game. The time is short.
Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.
We just need Jesus. We don’t need distractions and entertainment. Our world is lost. Politics is NOT the answer to our problems. Jesus is. We should be showing our friends and family the way, not trying to get them to think our church “is cool” or relevant. Jesus is all we need.
Try sharing Ken Copeland or David Bartons books and videos with anyone in the persecuted or underground church. They will just give you blank stares. An excellent video has come out from behind the islamic curtain and the underground persecuted church. I recommend watching this one to everyone. Grab a beverage of your choice and prepare yourself for a little perspective.
Recently there has been a bit of what I could call an epiphany in how I see Christianity today. I have always had an sensitive personality when it comes to scams and deception, in and out of the church. Sometimes I know when I’m being lied to right away, sometimes i’m also a little more gullible and it takes 25 years for me to figure it out.
As students of the Bible, we have always been aware of the prophecy to the 7 churches in the Book of Revelation mirroring the history of the church. Hal Lindsey, Tim Lahaye and many others often want to claim that “we” are the church of Philadephia and the Laodecian church are all those future sinners in the Tribulation period. We are taught that “we” aren’t those lukewarm Laodecians, right? Were all going up in the rapture right? We are the good guys? right? right?
Well lets take a fresh look at the evidence again. Start with the actual text of the Book of Revelation. The Lord tells us he will “anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see“. (say a quick prayer here, ask the Lord to give us holy wisdom, annoint our eyes, and show us the truth, according to His promised Word, Amen)
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. [Rev 3:14-22 KJV]
For most of my Christian walk I was probably 75-80% certain that prophetically speaking, I was in a “Church of Philadelphia” and the Laodecian church was something yet future. Maybe it is, maybe I was right, but at this time I am becoming more and more convinced that the Laodecian church is here right now. This post will explore that possibility and present evidence to support this assertion. It is not meant to be an exhaustive study, but I will provide outside links at certain points and enough hard evidence along the way to make my case. It is my intent to open this topic up for discussion. Light is always clarifying. Secrecy and hiding things from the membership or congregation suggests darkness is at work. if you are reading this and your salary is paid for by a church you should be doubly concerned. What does the Bible teach?
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them]. [Eph 5:11 KJV]
The last few years, I was attracted to the teaching of Jonathan Cahn, author of the “Harbinger” book and video series. I first heard about him through advertisements that would pop on my news feeds coming from “World Net Daily”, (WND) a somewhat sensationalist book selling website. I knew WND primarily sold books and my antennas should have been up, but I fell for it. The entire Isaiah 9:10 prophecy, and how it was repeating itself in the USA after September 11, 2001 was very creepy. Jonathan would describe it as a “mystery”, it was kind of like a “Christian X-file”. I would not buy any of his books but I watched and shared his videos.
Jonathan Cahn was always very careful in his books and videos to say he is not setting any specific dates or times and that none of us could “put God in a box” but then just like Giorgio Tsoukalos the False History Channel’s “Ancient Aliens” guy, Jonathan Cahn would say, “i’m not setting any dates, but the crash will begin on September 15th 2015″.
That sounded to me like he was setting a date but maybe not. So on September 16th, 2015 when nothing tangible happened, Jonathan Cahn fans were able to say “meh, he never set any dates” and go along following his videos.
I remained subscribed to Jonathan Cahn’s YouTube feeds but my alert level went up a notch. I kept kept watching but now purely from a watchman perspective, I stopped sharing his videos but confess I was one of the people who thought “meh he didn’t set any dates”. I didn’t rush to judge him or label him a “cahn man” right away like others but I had a genuine curiosity now as to how he would handle himself now that the 2015 “Shemiteh” dates had passed. I still gave him the benefit of the doubt at that time, regardless of the September date passing.
It was around a month later, sometime in November 2015 when Jonathan Cahn was back on the Jim Bakker show (yes, the same disgraced 1980′s televangelist Jim Bakker formerly married to and now divorced from Tammy Faye Bakker). Jim Bakker and Cahn were having a “Bakers dozen” sale of Cahn’s book.
Now, November was barely a month after the no show “Mystery Shemiteh” in September, I thought to myself, can the people in the audience be any more gullible than this? So, when any remaining stocks of the book should be tossed into the recycle bin, now, instead of selling just one book at a time, Jim Bakker is telling everyone to order 13 of them at a time? Are you kidding me? My alert meter pegs out now and needless to say, I am very disappointed with Cahn. He is nothing more than a book peddler to me now more than a true preacher at this point.
So here I am, I STILL did not want to toss the Cahn man baby out with the Bakkers dozen bath water. I held back any judgement, but I have now lost interest as a viewer completely. I didn’t unsubscribe to his YouTube feed but I wasn’t watching him at all anymore. That was until a few days ago when a new video came across his feed which would be the final straw for me.
I can’t say I was surprised this past week when I saw the new video come up. Jonathan Cahn was right there sharing the table with the known apostate and arch heretic word faith con artist Kenneth Copeland. Kenneth Copeland has long been blaspheming God. Since the 1980′s this FALSE TEACHER has been saying that we are God ourselves and Jesus was born again in hell (…for the record, Jesus DID NOT go to Hell for 3 days when he died, He went to Paradise) and other heresies that only gullible Americans would buy into such as speaking into existence whatever we want from cash and groceries to lear jets and stretch limos. I wouldn’t be seen in the parking lot of a Kenneth Copeland show let alone be in the audience or share his pulpit!
A lot of Christians are asking themselves today what in the world is Jonathan Cahn thinking?
I think the answer is obvious. Did Jonathan Cahn not self proclaim himself as “The Harbinger man”? Has he not himself BECOME the Harbinger?
This is where the light went off for me the last week. This is where I had my epiphany, “The Laodecian church is here”. I thought.
We now must take a long hard look at “Christian Music” these days and be honest with ourselves. Let’s start with the internationally renown Hillsong United, whose songs are played in churches world wide. Is this really worship glorifying to God? Is the congregation being directed to praise and worship God in heaven or are we looking at the stage and only being entertained, are we possibly even being seduced into something other than Biblical Christianity? Why does Hillsong United’s stage sets appear no differently than those of Lady Gaga, Beyonce, etc? One does not need to go far for multiple examples of this but here are a few to begin with.
Why are some Hillsong concerts nothing short or erotic idolatry and why do many otherwise solid churches (including Calvary Chapels) tolerate this infiltration? Here is another video exposing Hillsong United’s occultic imagery imbedded within their music.
Why is Hillsong NYC pastor Carl Lentz hanging out with rapper and Allister Crowley follower Jay-Z and saying he is having an illuminati meeting? “Kinda Wierd” is putting it lightly.
Karl Lentz is not alone in the Hillsong United / Emerging Church movement. Hillsong’s very leader Brian Houston has also crossed the line by openly promoting “Chrislam” and claiming Muslims actually serve the same god as us.
A day later Brian Houston quickly denied saying it but watch the video yourself. Decide for yourself if he said it or not, what he means, and if you think he is sincere or not. Everyone has their own free choice and ultimately I really don’t care what people around me believe but we all have the same evidence. Do not be so naive to believe these false teachers telling us we all serve the same God.
This is what is referred to as the “emerging church”. It is non confrontational, purpose driven, easy believe-ism and a lie from the pit of Hell.
One by one, churches all around us are falling for it.
I am genuinely and sincerely alarmed that the church as a whole is already in the latter process of being infiltrated and is now diving headlong into the “emerging church” ecumenical one world movement and am ready to rethink everything I know.
These are just a few brief examples of what I am talking about when I say “celebrity evangelism”. Jonathan Cahn, Jim Bakker, Kenneth Copeland, Rick Warren, all of Hillsong United, Carl Lentz, Brian Houston etc all fall into the jet setting, limousine riding, private security, lovers of self celebrity crowd. They are just the tip of the iceberg. but this never happens at any of the good churches, right? right?
A quick way to determine if your favorite preacher (or one of their kids) is a celebrity evangelist, just take a look at their Facebook feed. And if by some chance your pastor is NOT on Facebook, you just might be in a good church! Give that man a hug this Sunday! I assure you he needs it.
So… For now, this is just a test post to see if anyone is reading. If you have come this far please leave a comment and share your thoughts.